MSNBC - Sarah Palin Retractions

MSNBC news anchor David Shuster reported that "Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser" was the source of a leak in which Sarah Palin allegedly believed that Africa was a nation rather than a continent. After the election, MSNBC has retracted the veracity of this source. According to the New York Times, the MSNBC "source" was the creation of a filmmaker named Eitan Gorlin and his partner, Dan Mirvish.

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Sarah Palin: Africa is a country? - From Fox "News"
Predictify forecast NO - no more retractions

By the end of 2009, will MSNBC make any further retractions regarding its "news" related to former VP candidate Sarah Palin? (Question closed: no longer collecting predictions)

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Predictify forecast NO - no more retractions with 108 predictions

NO - no more retractions (79%)

If not, I can post it in a comment.
Let palin try to prove it is untrue.
No law against it.
She hardly denied it!

YES - at least one more retraction (21%)

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	Putting aside the astonishing number of inaccuracies and manipulations of fact you've packed into your question, let's just focus on one manipulation for the moment. You state that MSNBC retracted the veracity of this "after the election". It did not report this until after the election - following up on what FOX news reported. You seem incapable of even asking a question without steeping it in prejudice and lies. So, ace reporter, fortunesaver, seeking out your facts from one of the more right wing websites, will you apologize? No law against it.
	— mykobar predicted NO - no more retractions 3 0

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dnicolo1 Scholar predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.5 /10
	MSNBC will remain as the lowest level of biased news reporting. They will not retract any of their flawed news reporting any time soon. MSNBC will remain as the lowest level of biased news reporting. They will not retract any of their flawed news reporting any time soon. -- dnicolo1
	posted 6 months ago Reply 0 0 Report Abuse

Farva Guru Comment Quality: 5.9 /10
	JOW I agree with you. I think the lack of honesty and journalistic integrity is one of the main reasons in the current decline of newspaper readership and will be one of the biggest reasons for its demise. The one thing the major news publications had over the instant information available on the internet was absolute credibility. Without that people would rather just read it online. JOW I agree with you. I think the lack of honesty and journalistic integrity is one of the main reasons in the current decline of newspaper readership and will be one of the biggest reasons for... -- Farva
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JiggleBeans Beginner predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.5 /10
	Who Cares?? Palin does not have a chance to be president. She is NOT bright enough...BUSH is smarter than her and he has to have Cheney pulling the strings to hold his mouth just right... Who Cares?? Palin does not have a chance to be president. She is NOT bright enough...BUSH is smarter than her and he has to have Cheney pulling the strings to hold his mouth just right... -- JiggleBeans
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lgold1974 Expert predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 4.9 /10
	She hardly denied it! She hardly denied it! -- lgold1974
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timgroen Guru predicted YES - at least one more retraction Comment Quality: 5.4 /10
	media companies send out retractions all the time, but the damage has already been done. media companies send out retractions all the time, but the damage has already been done. -- timgroen
	posted 8 months ago Reply 0 0 Report Abuse

mykobar Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 7.1 /10
	My response wasn't a matter of the retraction but of your statement "after the election, MSNBC has retracted" etc. With your misuse of words and twisting of fact, you imply that MSNBC reported this story prior to the election, thereby lying to the public and hurting the pathetic Ms. Palin's attempt to gain votes when, in fact, the story, broken by Fox, came out after the election. But that is nothing unusual for you. You seem incapable of posing a fair question that hasn't been steeped in your prejudice and manipulated with the intent of getting people to answer within the limited range you wish them to. It's foolish of me to even waste my time responding to you. My response wasn't a matter of the retraction but of your statement "after the election, MSNBC has retracted" etc. With your misuse of words and twisting of fact, you imply that MSNBC reported... -- mykobar
	posted 8 months ago Reply +2 0 Report Abuse

rrpostlewaite Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.8 /10
	For what it's worth, I've always doubted the substance of the reports from an UNNAMED source about Palin. The story sounds like a professional campaign mgr who wants to diminish the impact of having McCain's campaign on their resume. Until that person is willing to put a face on the allegations, I will continue to evaluate Palin on her own words. For what it's worth, I've always doubted the substance of the reports from an UNNAMED source about Palin. The story sounds like a professional campaign mgr who wants to diminish the impact of... -- rrpostlewaite
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fortunesaver Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 6.5 /10
	Quote reported on Thursday November 13 on the Associated Press: "The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, (MSNBC) network spokesman. In a single word, I would describe that statement reported by the Associated Press as a "retraction" by MSNBC which calls into question the veracity of a source which they used. Best regards! Quote reported on Thursday November 13 on the Associated Press: "The story was not properly vetted and should not have made air," said Jeremy Gaines, (MSNBC) network spokesman. In a... -- fortunesaver
	posted 8 months ago Reply +1 0 Report Abuse

fortunesaver Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 7.7 /10
	Oddly enough, I think that they did perform a function if they made the news outlets a bit more cautious. On the other hand, the approach was partisan-based against the GOP. I suspect that major news outlets would have been much more cautious in their reporting had this group gone against a Democratic candidate. For example, the John Edwards affair was broken by the National Enquirer instead of ABC, CBS, NBC, NYT, WSJ, ... ALSO, JoW, I have recently changed e-mail addresses. Since you are a friend of mine on Predictify, do you have the ability to access my e-mail address? If not, I can post it in a comment. Oddly enough, I think that they did perform a function if they made the news outlets a bit more cautious. On the other hand, the approach was partisan-based against the GOP. I suspect that major... -- fortunesaver
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fortunesaver Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 6.5 /10
	Dear crawlingfasta, First, I didn't thumbs-down you. Second, if you go to a website such as register.com and then do the WHOIS lookup, you can see who owns a website AND when it was created. According to the NYT, this website was originally created to go after Rudy Giuliani (about a year ago when most people believed that the general election would be a contest between Giuliani & Hillary Clinton.) If you look at the website, you can see the early Giuiliani references. Finally, read the supporting article from the NYT and decide for yourself. Best regards! Dear crawlingfasta, First, I didn't thumbs-down you. Second, if you go to a website such as register.com and then do the WHOIS lookup, you can see who owns a website AND when it was created.... -- fortunesaver
	posted 8 months ago Reply +1 0 Report Abuse

szn46 Guru predicted Comment Quality: 6.7 /10
	Thank-you for unfurrowing my brow! I was reading all this junk and saying Hey! I saw the "leak" on Fox! WTF? Now I won't bother verifying this for sanity"s sake. Thank-you for unfurrowing my brow! I was reading all this junk and saying Hey! I saw the "leak" on Fox! WTF? Now I won't bother verifying this for sanity"s sake. -- szn46
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mykobar Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 7.6 /10
	Putting aside the astonishing number of inaccuracies and manipulations of fact you've packed into your question, let's just focus on one manipulation for the moment. You state that MSNBC retracted the veracity of this "after the election". It did not report this until after the election - following up on what FOX news reported. You seem incapable of even asking a question without steeping it in prejudice and lies. So, ace reporter, fortunesaver, seeking out your facts from one of the more right wing websites, will you apologize? No law against it. Putting aside the astonishing number of inaccuracies and manipulations of fact you've packed into your question, let's just focus on one manipulation for the moment. You state that MSNBC retracted... -- mykobar
	posted 8 months ago Reply +3 0 Report Abuse

JoW Guru predicted YES - at least one more retraction Comment Quality: 7.9 /10
	The rush to INVENT news is getting obnoxious. Hopefully the perpetrators of the lies will be punished. The rush to INVENT news is getting obnoxious. Hopefully the perpetrators of the lies will be punished. -- JoW
	posted 8 months ago Reply +8 0 Report Abuse

crawlingfasta Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.9 /10
	FortuneSaver, their first post states "November 2, 2007: Due to a hard-drive crash, we've had to rebuild the website from scratch. Apologies to everyone who has contributed over the years, but sadly it may take some time to reconstruct the archives. Please bear with us." Clearly they're YEARS older than.. one year. MSNBC is so liberally biased it even annoys me. And I'm far-left.. FortuneSaver, their first post states "November 2, 2007: Due to a hard-drive crash, we've had to rebuild the website from scratch. Apologies to everyone who has contributed over the years,... -- crawlingfasta
	posted 8 months ago Reply 0 0 Report Abuse

sorenstam Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 8.0 /10
	At risk of taking the politics out of this question, we ALL should be concerned that unverified rumor and innuendo gets put on the air as news. At risk of taking the politics out of this question, we ALL should be concerned that unverified rumor and innuendo gets put on the air as news. -- sorenstam
	posted 8 months ago Reply +9 0 Report Abuse

Buddy Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 6.0 /10
	We currently have the most idiotic press in History; anybody who listens to it is bound to become one. We currently have the most idiotic press in History; anybody who listens to it is bound to become one. -- Buddy
	posted 8 months ago Reply +1 0 Report Abuse

hippership Expert predicted Comment Quality: 5.2 /10
	fortune, I just read that a source came forward, can't remember the name. fortune, I just read that a source came forward, can't remember the name. -- hippership
	posted 8 months ago Reply 0 0 Report Abuse

fortunesaver Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 7.0 /10
	Almost anything is possible; however, a verifiable source on the alleged Palin comment has not come forward as of this writing. On the other hand, look at the time which was spent by a couple guys on a website with the intent to manipulate and deceive the media. Just like the "thirteenth toll of the bell," I believe that one lie told casts doubt on everything else which follows. Almost anything is possible; however, a verifiable source on the alleged Palin comment has not come forward as of this writing. On the other hand, look at the time which was spent by a couple guys... -- fortunesaver
	posted 8 months ago Reply +2 0 Report Abuse

barondog1 Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 6.8 /10
	A lot of disappointed republicans out there. When will the whinning end. waaa, waaa, waaa.............. A lot of disappointed republicans out there. When will the whinning end. waaa, waaa, waaa.............. -- barondog1
	posted 8 months ago Reply +2 0 Report Abuse

deches Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.9 /10
	MSNBC, the Barack Channel has less credibility than the worse supermarket tabloids on the planet. I mean the Globe has more authenticity than MSNBC. And, it is one of the least watched channels in this country. And, for the fourteenth time, the Africa Continent / Country story is a patent lie that just keeps getting told over and over again as is all the other stories about Sarah Palin. There is a concerted effort by the commie media to destroy this woman and her family. It will not work except in the minds of the Barackomaniacs and droolers in this country who believe every unsubstantiated rumor about Republicans and refuse to believe facts about the Saviour even when they are backed up with facts. How about the NY Times not running the story about John Edwards knocking up his mistress? Oh, we can't run that. We don't know if it's true. The NY Times has no problem running rumors and lies about Palin, McCain and Bush on a regular basis. The commie media and all Dems are the biggest bun MSNBC, the Barack Channel has less credibility than the worse supermarket tabloids on the planet. I mean the Globe has more authenticity than MSNBC. And, it is one of the least watched channels in... -- deches
	posted 8 months ago Reply 0 0 Report Abuse

tom1044 Guru predicted Comment Quality: 4.8 /10
	Very true. Very true. -- tom1044
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ryanrober Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 7.7 /10
	Really people should get off Palin already. Obviously, it was McCain's campaign team that was idoitic enough to assume that women are so shallow that they would swap Palin for Clinton. Obviously, it was McCain's campaign team that was idiotic enough to assume they could through out tangential connections of Obama's hoping something would stick. Palin is but a pond in a much bigger game of chess, repeating merely what was given to her. If she is smart she'll take the time to get a little more informed about how the world works and she could go far in the party if it choses to take the social conservative route, which let's hope it doesn't and returns to it's fiscal conservative values. Really people should get off Palin already. Obviously, it was McCain's campaign team that was idoitic enough to assume that women are so shallow that they would swap Palin for Clinton. Obviously,... -- ryanrober
	posted 8 months ago Reply +4 0 Report Abuse

rrpostlewaite Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.6 /10
	How does she prove the negative? How does she prove the negative? -- rrpostlewaite
	posted 8 months ago Reply +1 0 Report Abuse

Opus Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.3 /10
	MSNBC actually just repeated what FOX News reported. MSNBC actually just repeated what FOX News reported. -- Opus
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Opus Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.8 /10
	What I find hilarious is that no one challenged the veracity of the claim until now. The reason, I think, is that her performance during the campaign was so weak, that such a ludicrous claim seemed plausible. BTW, Gorlin and Mirvish were behind the Kristen Wiig/Joe the Plumber romance rumors, too. What I find hilarious is that no one challenged the veracity of the claim until now. The reason, I think, is that her performance during the campaign was so weak, that such a ludicrous claim... -- Opus
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ediefaber Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 4.9 /10
	why? let palin try to prove it is untrue. why? let palin try to prove it is untrue. -- ediefaber
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rrpostlewaite Guru predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 6.8 /10
	Of course, the only thing retracted was the "source" of the statements about Palin. The original Fox News story claiming that Palin mistook Africa for a country has not been retracted. Of course, the only thing retracted was the "source" of the statements about Palin. The original Fox News story claiming that Palin mistook Africa for a country has not been retracted. -- rrpostlewaite
	posted 8 months ago Reply +2 0 Report Abuse

Dignity Beginner predicted Comment Quality: 5.6 /10
	Sarah Palin is a powerful figure who is almost as polarizing as Hillary Clinton. She will be attacked mercilessly the next year or two as her detractors attempt to discredit her hoping to stop her rise to power. Sarah Palin is a powerful figure who is almost as polarizing as Hillary Clinton. She will be attacked mercilessly the next year or two as her detractors attempt to discredit her hoping to stop her... -- Dignity
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saddenamerican12 Beginner predicted NO - no more retractions Comment Quality: 5.7 /10
	Pmsnbc is barely a news program anymore. They simply report what they want and spin there facts. Even if they do retract there statements how many people know that they do, i don't watch there crummy program so this was news to me. And to extent they are betting on that. Pmsnbc is barely a news program anymore. They simply report what they want and spin there facts. Even if they do retract there statements how many people know that they do, i don't watch there... -- saddenamerican12
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